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29 October 2008 @ 06:17 pm
The Everyday Adventures of Steve 3 (finally!)  

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(Anonymous) on November 1st, 2008 12:04 am (UTC)
I don't have an NG account so I thought I'd review Steve 3 here.

Story: I think you incorporated a great plot onto Steve 3. I liked how you added a lot of action into the series but I think you should've added more of Steve's signature comedy style into it. Don't get me wrong, some of the jokes were pretty funny but I missed the random adult humour that was present in Steve 1 and 2. I think you should stick with the comedy in future BUT also try to add in the engaging plot and violence. I had looked at the comic you did earlier and found it to be very funny. Steve's comedy style was more present in there then it was in the actual flash. The 'Diet Coke' scene in particular was one you could've added. The ending where Steve and Sullivan look up into the clouds (Which looked great, I should add) was ok but it looked unfinished. You should've kept the ending in the comic where they get to the office and Jimmy is found dressing and acting like Steve.

Jimmy: Steve's 'sidekick' didn't really appear all that much. I think he should've tagged along purely for comedic purposes. I'm not sure how I feel about you choosing someone else to voice him in the next installment. I never had any problems with you voicing Jimmy but then again, I have no idea how your friend will fare.

Sullivan: He should've had at least one line in the whole thing like "It's not my fault your drugs are crap." (Like in the comic). I'm not sure why he had no lines.

Music: The music was spot-on. It fits the scenes perfectly like when Steve is on the plane. The best song was "Only In Dreams" by Weezer. Prior to the flash, I hadn't heard of it but it is now one of my favorite songs.

Time: 20 months was pretty long but procrastination and life always gets in the way. Although I would want to see it as soon as possible, you should by no means, rush the thing. Just do it at your own pace, no quicker, no slower.

Voice Actors: No problem with the voice actors. Like you said, saying how you would want it to sound to people over the internet is hard so I think you should maybe get people you know to voice some characters. It gets things done how you want it easily and (I think) it is faster.

Overall: I'd give it four stars.

On a last note, I hope Steve 4 comes soon and I wish you the best of luck with it!

questfilms on November 1st, 2008 11:30 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the review! I agree with almost all your points, particularly that the humour should return to the Steve 1 and 2 style but with proper storylines. This doesn't mean the series needs to have pseudo-dramatic bits like in Steve 3 (which admittedly didn't work very well), but each episode - like the comics - should start immediately with a new crisis beginning and then follow Steve as he tries to sort things out. With that said, if I ever begin writing an episode and find that the story is plodding along and getting in the way of jokes, I'll completely alter it.

As for the voice actors, I think it's generally fine to get bit-parts done by people on the Internet as the quality doesn't need to be amazing or anything, even though I think ShockDingo and Raz did an excellent job in the most recent episode. In case you were wondering about why exactly I didn't give Sullivan any lines, it was simply because I haven't seen my brother Ollie (who plays Sullivan) very much in the last year, and everytime I did see him it kinda slipped my mind. The original script for Steve 3 started with a scene showing the drug-dealers kidnapping Sullivan from his house, and it was actually pretty funny. I unfortunately cut it because it was easier to do the episode without Sullivan saying anything, which in hindsight was a pretty weak excuse.

Finally, there are three main reasons I'm changing Jimmy's voice - first, the majority of people on Newgrounds seem to want a different actor. Second, I know that Kyle is going to do a good job voicing him. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, I simply never feel comfortable doing Jimmy's lines. I don't know if it's because I find doing the voice awkward or simply that it doesn't flow properly when you have to voice two characters having very dialogue-heavy conversations, but I think it's time to let someone else do the voice. If for whatever reason it doesn't work out with Kyle or people really don't like the change, I'll switch back to doing it myself.

So yeah, there you go. I appreciate you suggesting I should make Steve 4 at my own pace, but to be honest Steve 3 took so much longer than it should have done so I really need to push myself to animate more effectively. That obviously doesn't mean I should rush anything, but I think it's good to work at a consistent pace, first because it's good to be disciplined with something you care about, and second because I think a cartoon ends up better if you have a goal in mind at the start and can keep that in mind throughout the whole production. Seriously, by the time Steve 3 was finished I'd watched the first two scenes around 80 times and had completely lost the ability to see the cartoon objectively. Equally, by the time it was done I was so eager to just get it online that I didn't spend any time whatsoever looking back and seeing if anything needed changing.

With all the above said, keep in mind that I'm not going to animate a single thing until the script is completely finished and I'm really happy with it, plus I want to get all the voice-work done as soon as possible. It's a lot easier and certainly a lot more fun to animate something that already has a solid framework and is really fresh, and I think that was ultimately the problem with Steve 3 - the script wasn't finished or particularly amazing when I begun animating it, which caused all manner of problems later on.
ext_137961 on December 13th, 2008 03:42 pm (UTC)
hahaha! maybe it is... was bored one night at work so thought id have a doodle and it kinda turned into him haha! i hope he never sees it though!!
(Anonymous) on January 9th, 2009 06:31 pm (UTC)
Where is that music from where Steve is on the plane to Colombia?
questfilms on January 10th, 2009 12:00 am (UTC)
Re: Music
The song is 'Imperativa' by Immediate Music.